Sex & Dating Advice | The Sunny-Side-Up Podcast : Full Episode 2
The Sunny-Side-Up Podcast
October 14, 2022
On this episode of Bro Talk with Sunny Chawla, I dive into all kinds of topics, from tech annoyances to the realities of dating in today’s world. We get into why I’m still not sold on massive smartphones, my thoughts on electric cars, and how standards can change everything—whether it’s hitting the gym or navigating relationships. Sunny and I swap stories, laughs, and some not-so-serious advice about life, fitness, and keeping things simple.
We cover:
- The “boomer” take on why smaller phones just made more sense
- How the paradox of choice impacts dating today
- Finding motivation in fitness (and staying injury-free)
- How to raise your standards and avoid the “bad boy” trap
- Why it’s about building confidence, not just counting wins
Full Transcript
Sunishth Chawla: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Sunny Side Up podcast. This is technically episode number eight, but as we were just talking earlier, this is technically episode one of a new segment called Bro Talk. So I'm joined here again with Dylan [incomprehensible]. How are you doing, buddy? I'm doing good, man. Thanks for having me. It's been a while. I know it's been a couple of years. It took me about a year to record the first one or to edit the first one. So I'm definitely glad that we're back. So we were just talking in the car while we were waiting for the this, like, podcast venue to open up. We basically just started talking about our own podcast topics. And I think one of the best things to talk about first is so like, bro talk, like, what's the basis of it? Because apparently you're not ready to be a podcast host yet. Yet you've been on several podcasts.
Dylan Ogline: This is number 60 for me, actually.
Sunishth Chawla: Number 60?
Dylan Ogline: This is number. I actually looked it up today. This is my 60th editor.
Sunishth Chawla: Throw some confetti in there. I need to make a meme off of that. Yeah. There you go, man.
Dylan Ogline: No, but I like this. I like the... You know, this is you're my first person that I've done two shows with. Wow.
Sunishth Chawla: I'm honored.
Dylan Ogline: You should be honored.
Sunishth Chawla: More confetti.
Dylan Ogline: But, I mean, I like the idea of, you know, we were talking before the show. And we were talking last week when we were, we got steamy in the spa. Three hours, give or take.
Dylan Ogline: Yeah. You know, doing a podcast myself. I don't know. I wouldn't want to do, you know, some people do shows where it's just like them talking. I couldn't do that. I don't think I could do that. And I don't know if I could handle the pressure of being the person to ask the questions. How many interviews have you done?
Sunishth Chawla: So I've done.
Dylan Ogline: You've done me.
Sunishth Chawla: As far as interviews go. Like, I kind of grew up, like working with my mission to interview some of, like the higher end people that that were like in the mission longer. So like just for like spiritual purposes. I've done it a couple times, but more than anything, just by nature, I'm a college kid. I ask questions, you know, I'm going to ask, why do we wear a condom? Why does a squared plus b squared equals c squared? Like random shit like that. That's what's going to happen. Yeah. But I just think that like after hearing someone's perspective on something, I'm able to add a little bit more to it and being open minded, it definitely helps too, so that's the way to solve world peace, by the way.
World peace...
Sunishth Chawla: Is being open.
Dylan Ogline: Minded and having conversation and dialog. Look at that man.
Sunishth Chawla: Bro talk bro talk.
Dylan Ogline: We're solving world.
Sunishth Chawla: Peace. There it is. We're ready. We're ready already with it. So we were talking earlier just to kind of give the viewers a little bit more basis, I think, I guess we'll kind of start with technology first. Something that the boomer Dylan's not really very keen to talk about this. Exactly. Yeah.
Dylan Ogline: This is the iPhone. Yeah. We were talking about this. So as I mentioned, you know, I had the I don't know if I had did they make an 11 pro?
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah.
Dylan Ogline: So I think I had the 11 pro and you have the 11 Pro max.
Sunishth Chawla: I have the 12 Pro Max.
Dylan Ogline: Oh, look at you, big guy.
Sunishth Chawla: So I hate I.
Dylan Ogline: Hate how they've gotten bigger, right? I miss the days of, like, the really small iPhones. I like how they got thinner, but I hate how they got so big. And I understand people are spending way more time. You have people like you spend tons of time on their phone. I know a lot of people who don't even have a computer, right? Like their phone is their life. They're using it on the browser. I get all that, but they haven't kept this option for us boomers. You know who like that smaller phone. So I had the 11 Pro or whatever. And eventually I had that for almost two years. And then the face ID stopped working. I was having some issues with Slow as Hell. So finally I get this 14 pro, right? And just like, dude, this is junk. What? What's going on here? Apple. Why are the cameras so far out?
Sunishth Chawla: I hope you know that with the 14 they like made an insane. That was their biggest thing was the camera and like the front facing camera and all that. And like you owning a Tesla too... That's why you have a case for it, right?
Dylan Ogline: No, the case still does that too, man. The case still. Listen, I understand, all right.
Sunishth Chawla: Fair enough. Right.
Dylan Ogline: But I just don't... I'm becoming I'm becoming one of those cynical boomers who's like, technology sucks.
Sunishth Chawla: Well, here's the first thing. And I'll first kind of preface with the size of it. So I'm going to say it right now, bigger is better. Is it. Yes, bigger is better.
Dylan Ogline: I keep being told that. But certain, you know, certain people tell me it's not that way.
Sunishth Chawla: Well I saw those certain people are wrong. So bigger is better. Bigger is better. The second thing is you own a Tesla. So you know about this I do. And just really in general, like anything that is heavier technically tends to be deemed better quality.
Heavy, isn't it? Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it.
Sunishth Chawla: So now why is Apple making something bigger and a little bit heavier? Because it's better quality. That or so they think. That's what they want you to think.
Dylan Ogline: Okay, well, give me less features and give me a smaller phone.
Sunishth Chawla: Well that's what you got Samsung's for. You ready to take the hike to Samsung? No. That's what I thought. They have they have this little like flip phone now where it's like you flip it. It's weird. It's whack. But like that's the case. I'm just going to go back to Verizon and go grab me a Motorola Razr.
Dylan Ogline: I miss those days. That was you know, I think we talked about this in the previous bro Talk episode. That was what I was I that was my first business man was selling those Motorola razors. That was the hot seller.
Sunishth Chawla: I remember my...
Dylan Ogline: Big thing.
Sunishth Chawla: My uncle had this mahogany like red colored one, and my mom had this hot pink colored one. She still has it to this day. I was going to work or she just had. She just has it. Like I was just going through her stuff. I was looking for some fabric scissors because now that I've been hitting the gym, you know, I wanted to get some cutoffs. Exactly. So in that drawer was her hot pink Motorola Razr.
Dylan Ogline: Why does it turn on?
Sunishth Chawla: I don't know. I don't know where the charger is at. I'm pretty sure after sitting there for. Yeah, for 15 years sitting there, I'm sure it's dead. But just the thought of having things become a more simple, like lifestyle. I think like with phones, with any sort of technology, it's definitely better. Why do people enjoy Macs so much? Because it's so simple. Why do people enjoy those Teslas with the iPads in them? Why? Because they're so simple. It's so simple. Exactly.
Dylan Ogline: And it just works. Exactly. One thing I don't like with that, right? I feel like a couple weeks ago. So I got a model three. I got that beginning of August. I feel like when I first got it, I could walk up and like, automatically it connected to my phone and we were good, right? And I can unlock now. It's not doing that. I gotta, like, pull out my phone and then it, like, wakes up and it's like, oh, you're here. Okay, let me unlock the doors. It's drunk or something. I don't know what the deal is.
Sunishth Chawla: First world problems.
Dylan Ogline: I know it's all first world problems.
Sunishth Chawla: Do you know what my cord does? What my cord will do is like there'll be some days where it'll just connect like this. And all of a sudden, you know, my rock music starts blaring, and then next thing you know, I hop in the car a little too quick, or I turn on the car five seconds later than I normally do, and it doesn't even recognize that my phone's in the car and it just deletes it off the system so my things can be worse.
Dylan Ogline: My friend had a problem where it would just I'd be going and then it would just turn off. And it was a brand new. I had a my first car was a Pontiac torrent. Have you ever seen those?
Sunishth Chawla: Yes. It shares the same wheel base as a Chevy Equinox. Chevy Equinox. I'm a GM boy, I know, yeah.
Dylan Ogline: You know what I'm talking about. I would just be driving and randomly, I could be going down the highway and it would just shut off. It was a brand new car. Like they don't they don't make things like.
Sunishth Chawla: They used to, but 2000 like the mid 2000 GM that was a question. What year was it?
Dylan Ogline: That would have been like... It would have been...
Sunishth Chawla: 2005... 4 to 9 I think is when they built them.
Dylan Ogline: Yeah, yeah. 2004, 2005, something like that. It might have been in oh five. I mean, I know.
Sunishth Chawla: That's what that's what they were.
Dylan Ogline: I think I put like a new, new tires on it at like 10,000 miles and then 20,000. Yeah.
Sunishth Chawla: All of it. That's the case. My dad would be pretty pissed at you. Yeah. The way that I've been, I've been taking my car around. I mean, granted, it's Florida. It rains it. You know, everything goes wrong with your car because of the heat. So, like, I had to put in new tires at 20,000 because someone slashed my tires when I went to go get a haircut. Really? 28,000 miles. That happened. And then after that, right before I left for Michigan a couple months ago, before I had to get new tires because it was just down to, like, the wire. I literally wrote hurricane season. Will you drive?
Dylan Ogline: You drive pretty fast.
Sunishth Chawla: I do.
Dylan Ogline: Yeah, I drive, I drive pretty fast.
Sunishth Chawla: I definitely don't have two tickets. Well, speaking of let's talk about what's on the back of your car. I'm sure the editor will put the picture right there, but Yeah. So Dylan's got a basically some police proof tangibles on his car. Don't explain yourself in.
Dylan Ogline: The state of Florida. I think it's, you know, I could get the details on the Florida Sheriff's Association. They send out this thing, and they know what they're doing, right? They send out this thing, and you can donate to, you know, and they I don't I don't even know what the association does, right? But if you donate, it's like 15 bucks or $20 a year or something like that. They send you a sticker and you slap that on your car and it basically says like, hey, I support the Florida Sheriff's Association, right? Which is cool. You know, I try to donate to all kinds of organizations and whatnot. And I probably would have donated, you know, regardless. Of course I would, officer. But if you donate, I it might have been like $100. If you donate $100, they give you this gold frame. And I was like, man, I mean, that sounds like a get out of jail free card.
Sunishth Chawla: Exactly. That screams I'm a pussy, but I'm still gonna speed. Yeah, yeah.
Dylan Ogline: And I remember reading years ago, I think California had something similar, except for theirs was like $2,500. And you got this special frame, and it was kind of known, you know, people who had Ferraris and those fast cars that you like, it was kind of known like, hey, if you had this, that was kind of like, they'd let you off easy on tickets. So, you know, if you're driving a $300,000 car, you're not going to have a problem with that, right? So other states started picking up on it and, and I and I bought that. I think it was. I think I bought that I had the Audi. Three days later I'm driving home from hockey from RTV, and I made a right turn. There's this one road right very close to my house, where you don't really stop. Like there's nobody coming from the left, there's nobody coming straight. And I turned and there was a cop sitting there, right? So she pulls me over and I'm thinking like, well, this is the test, right? Like she's gonna see the sticker, she's gonna see the, the license plate frame and still gave me like 180 tickets. That's tough.
Sunishth Chawla: So. So imagine those people in California who pay $2,500 for a gold plastic frame that they could have probably made themselves, probably and still and still get the ticket. Yeah. Which speaking of and I'm sure this will kind of lead into more of like a political talk somewhere down the line. But what happened? I was scrolling through Instagram, as I usually do, and I'm sure you've heard of what the Dodge Hellcat is, right? Super-fast, right out of the factory. 707 horsepower. Yeah. So obviously, it's become a staple for people that want fast cars, that don't want to build them. So, you know, they go out, they drive these things, and they sound pretty gnarly to this one guy got pulled over from by like a California State Police and he basically got, like a ticket or they were having an argument or whatnot because he, like, he was he kept saying it was stuck. And in California, they have extremely strict rules saying that you cannot modify your car because of emissions. They're trying to go all Tesla's all electric vehicles. So they're saying fuck the gasoline powered cars, especially the ones that go fast. And that's why now every automaker is starting to build electric cars. And so he got pulled over and it was just a whole shit show going on about, oh, like, this is a stock car, but we're still going to pull you over because we think that it's mudded. You can't have that loud of a car in California. Where do you stand with that? Are you fully with the Tesla dick riding gang, or do you feel some sort of pardon towards the people that like gas powered engines?
Dylan Ogline: So I have no problem with you know, obviously I am progressive. We have to battle climate change and whatnot. If you want to have a gas powered vehicle. I mean, obviously, I just. I used to own a ram. I traded in the Audi, got a ram. I drove that around the country in an RV trip. I see there's purpose to it. I don't see necessarily a problem with people, you know, I don't think it should be outlawed. Is what I'm getting at, right? Yeah, I do like, I. I think it's inevitable we are making the transition to electric vehicles. There are infinitely better on every level. Okay, okay. I know I'm poking the bear here.
Sunishth Chawla: This is hurting.
Dylan Ogline: Yes, I know, I know, I enjoy it. I think they're a lot better. But that's just my opinion. You know, people are still going to buy them. And yeah, I don't necessarily have a problem with that at all. I as far as the modifications, right. You know, there are certain things that I think you shouldn't be allowed to do that. Like where I'm from, up in Pennsylvania, rolling coal is a big thing. That's ridiculous, right? I definitely have a problem with that. That is impacting the lives of other people with how bad that is for the environment, and it's dirty and blah, blah, blah.
Sunishth Chawla: I don't think my southern viewers are gonna like that one. No you're not.
Dylan Ogline: But then again, why are you doing that? Why? That's you're not benefiting. And so there has to be a line, right? I'm fine with people making certain modifications with their vehicles, but there certainly has to be a line. You know, you can't be I actually don't know what any of the regulations are as far as modifications, I know Pennsylvania. There was might be a lull. Might have not have been might have changed it. A kid I went to high school with, he had back in the 60s. They had this like thing you would attach to your wheel that allowed you to like, turn it faster. And I have no idea what it's called. But he got one and I was told it was extremely illegal because it makes the vehicle much more dangerous. Okay. Like I'm cool with that. If, if there is a reason behind the regulation, I'm okay with it.
Sunishth Chawla: Gotcha. Yeah. Because that was the main question, because I've talked to a couple people recently that are very, very pro electric vehicles and they happen to be from California as well. So they're the ones who kind of feed me like the information of like regulations that are happening, things that are put into place like it's crazy to me because the argument that I bring to them and I'd like to hear your standpoint on it too, is like you pretty much all of the cars that are in in California, they're transitioning to electric and they don't have the infrastructure for it. There's a huge heat wave that hit California, which pretty much like destroyed half of their like electric charge or whatever you want to call it. And people had to basically pay to charge their cars. Yeah. So there's one guy. His name is Alex Choi. He's a pretty well renowned fuck around her on YouTube. And he has a he has a Tesla. And basically what happened was there was a snap that he posted on Snapchat where he was.
Dylan Ogline: Charging his Tesla.
Sunishth Chawla: Charging his Tesla, and it was like 40 to $60 that he paid. And it's like, all right, so what's the difference between that and a gasoline powered car? Yeah, obviously given electric is renewable and you know, when you're using fossil fuels that emits emissions and all that. But the question that I have for you is we basically use on a daily basis semi-trucks, big trucks that require diesel and all these other like fuels to get us to like what we need to do. You know, you've got like all the materials, the raw materials, all that shipping.
Dylan Ogline: Containers, shipping containers use like raw crude oil. It's absolutely destructive.
Sunishth Chawla: Exactly. So if people are so hell bent on going towards electric cars within, let's say, the next three years, like the global automakers are saying, how do you think that's going to bear? Or how do you think that's going to fare for just us that are living in the States and just in general?
Dylan Ogline: So I think what people misunderstand is, you know, one, there's a material if you take away the government push for electric vehicles, right? There's material benefit to it, right? Like I view it as almost like, you know, you used to talk about you go back 100 years ago and we were talking about horses versus this model thing that this Ford guy came up with, right? And well, that model T can't go anywhere where there's not a street. So, I mean, that horse can go anywhere, right? Like that's what people were saying back then. Anytime you have big shifts like this, it's not perfect, right? And it's not. One day we automatically switch. The regulations are going to be off. You know, it's not going to be perfect. Some of it's good. Sometimes they might push it a little too far. No, there's no joke. Whenever you can read tons of articles from like, the New York Times or whatever in like 1900.
Sunishth Chawla: You know, I don't read I know.
Dylan Ogline: You know, books that I've read. I know you're not a reader, but
Sunishth Chawla: Hello, darkness, my old friend.
Speaker6: I've come to talk with you again.
Dylan Ogline: Well, you can look it up. Go Google it. Where? The big problem they were talking about. The big, big problem with all these horses, horse and buggies was horse shit. This is not a joke. Like they were worried because cities like New York would have, like, entire blocks where they would just dump all the horse shit. This is no joke, man. This is no joke. And it was like, you know, when it would rain. And it was an environmental disaster, right? So they were like, oh, we got to get rid of the horses. We got to move to these cars. Right? I know it's not a perfect example, but I'm just saying, like, any of these technologies are going to have problems and any big shift is going to have problems, right? You didn't live through Y2K. You know, we were all worried that, you know, 2000, every computer was not going to work. And we should have kept paper like, and everything is going to crash and the globe. That was real, dude. When were you born? You were born in 2000. Wow. You have no idea.
Sunishth Chawla: November of 2001. Wow.
Dylan Ogline: Oh, my God, we're talking...
Sunishth Chawla: I'm a post nine over 11, baby.
Dylan Ogline: Pre... Wow. Yeah, dude, it was real. I remember I was fifth grade or so, literally, like we were scared in school. We were scared like when we went home for that Christmas break, it was like the world might end because we're like so reliant on computers now. And I mean, obviously now it's 100 times worse. Regardless. Okay, what I'm getting at is when you have these big shifts, when we went from pen and paper to computers, when we went from horse and buggy to the internal combustion engine, as we're going from the internal combustion engine to electric vehicles. It's not perfect, right? I think what it comes down to, right? We talked about this in the last bro talk episode. Climate change is real. Climate change is a problem. We need to do something. Okay? And it's not. There is no silver bullet. We need to take steps. It. You know, people I think the Obama administration years ago, like they, they increased the emission standards for GM, Ford automakers and whatnot, right? That's not a silver bullet. That's a certain step we can take reducing the cost of solar panels. That's not a silver bullet. It's a step we can take. It's all of these things that we can do. So I don't I don't know the details about. I know California is leading the way with pushing towards electric vehicles. I think I saw something recently where they're making it by like 2030. Like you can't even buy an internal combustion engine in California. Do I think that's an overstep? Maybe, right? Maybe it is. But they're just trying to do something. They're trying to take steps. So, you know, the transition is not going to be perfect. We're going to have problems. But just taking the steps and taking action. Progress is not a straight line, right. We're going to have ups and downs. But I think if we're just trying to get better and we're trying to get more green, I think that's a good thing.
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah, that's well said. Anyone else who has questions for that rebuttal? Because he pretty much beat me out. But anyone else that has questions, you can email me.
Dylan Ogline: I was trying to think of anything.
Sunishth Chawla: That's what.
Dylan Ogline: When is Sunny gonna come back?
Sunishth Chawla: We had, like, three more questions. I didn't say playing devil's advocate, blah blah blah.
Dylan Ogline: No, I get that, yeah.
Sunishth Chawla: And you were able to answer every single one. Good. So hurray to the progressive people. But another thing that takes a lot of process and I guess goes along with progress. Not being a straight line is definitely both of our fitness journeys. Yes. So I this is something that I was really, really excited to talk about because I started the podcast off talking about it. And just as of recently, I felt a lot more, I guess, comfortable in my own body. You know, all that type of shit. Thank you, right? Right back at you. So? So just the way you are. Yeah. So this is the first time in, like, four days that I hit the gym because busy with studying and all that. But definitely it's been a bigger step than when I used to go. Maybe once every week or once a month or something like that. And last time I asked you about what drove you in life. Just like mindset wise. What drives you to go to the gym every single day?
Dylan Ogline: So honestly, I just it's I've become addicted to it, but not like, not like I'm a gym rat addicted to it. Right? Like, I just don't if I'm not moving every day. Something like six days a week, right? Doesn't have to be the gym. It could be. You know, I got into cycling during Covid. It could be, you know, some jump rope and kettlebells, things like that. If I don't do that, like two days in a row and I'm, like, going out of my mind, dude. Like, I gotta do something. That's really what it is, is I enjoy it. I've never had never had a problem. No, this is. That's not true. I was going to say I've never had a problem with, like, finding the motivation when I was seventh, eighth, ninth grade. You know, I was playing hockey in high school, and coaches were like, you need to start getting to the gym and whatnot. The gym, like, I'm not I'm not going to the gym.
Dylan Ogline: Who's Jim?
Dylan Ogline: Like, that's not gonna be a thing, right? And you know, my parents had one of those wasn't Bow flex, but it was one of those things in the house. And, I mean, I wasn't going to use that shit, and I just got just, like, started. Well, actually, what it was. No, what was is I was talking to my girlfriend at the time on the phone. We, you know, this was back. Whenever you didn't text, you talked on the phone. And I was walking around talking to her, like, every night. And I would go into the room that had the Bow flex thing, and I would just there was like a rope for, like, doing, you know, triceps pull downs or whatever. And I just would do that, like, every night, just out of habit. Wasn't working out. It was just like talking to her on the phone. Chit, you know, just listen to her talk. And I was like, man, my arms are getting bigger. This is. I mean, when you're that skinny.
Sunishth Chawla: Are you sure it was the triceps pull down? Or was it her voice?
Dylan Ogline: I don't know, man, I don't know, but I swear to God, I was like, get ripped. I really was pumped, you know? It was just like getting that little bit of like. And at the time, I was so skinny that just, like, dude, if I could have done five push-ups, I would have been like, I am Arnold. Yeah. I mean, that's what I would have felt like. I was so skinny, and I was like, oh man, I kind of like felt good. And then I just started doing stuff. They're just like picked up some equipment. But prior to that, definitely it was like, whose gym? I'm not doing this whole thing right. Got just got motivated by just seeing results. And I just loved it. And I've never had a problem with lifting or it hasn't always been this pursuit of gains. It was for a while. It was like when I was like 17, 18, 19. It was like, I want to get jacked. Like 230 was the goal and now I'm like 230 and it's like, whatever. Yeah. I never, really, never really had an issue with the motivation. It was just like, I love it. So yeah, now I would be driven out of my mind if I couldn't go. So that was.
Sunishth Chawla: And what's your, I guess, like what's your favorite day and like what is a typical one of those days look like. Like what do you do workout wise.
Dylan Ogline: So I've ever since I moved to Florida. Like I try to add a lot more flexibility and a lot more just different stuff. So I'll either do the cycling. I was doing a hit class at RGV. Shout out to RJ my boy and love that started just getting like injuries. I have a big I have tendinitis in my Achilles right now, which is which is a big problem. It hurts to walk, you know Boomer issues getting old? I am dude. Dude, let me tell you. Okay. You don't know what it's like.
Sunishth Chawla: Well, currently I'm 20 and I feel like I'm a 70 year old right now.
Dylan Ogline: Everybody told me when I was your age. Everybody told me. They're like telling you, keep it up with that lifting. And like, you're going to have aches and pains and. No, no, I do the yoga's I do this, I do that, I stretch, I'm not going to have any problems. I turned 30 and Sunny was all downhill, like it was. Everything hurts all the time. You know, now it's like, oh, I slept wrong and my back hurts for like, a month. Like, that's what it's like... What was your question again?
Sunishth Chawla: The question was what was your what's your favorite gym day like?
Dylan Ogline: Favorite gym day?
Sunishth Chawla: What is like what are those...?
Legs has been becoming a favorite day. I do. I'll have to share with you my, my I have a tablet that I just write everything down. I do pretty much the same stuff all the time and the reason I do that is I try not to shift the lifts, because that just becomes too much work to remember, like, what are my weights and stuff like that. And I try to change the actual workout. So it's like my lifting is always the same, but as I might do the hit, I might do cycling, I might do yoga I would yeah, man, I probably legs has become my favorite day because, you know, you and me kind of got this, like, you know, competition rivalry.
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah.
Dylan Ogline: We do, we do.
Sunishth Chawla: Why don't you share with everybody? What's your what's your max squat?
Dylan Ogline: So I don't do one rep anymore. One rep. Max. If I can't do it. No, I don't want to say pretty easily, but if it's like if I can't do three reps, that's too much.
Sunishth Chawla: Okay, so for three, what can you do?
Dylan Ogline: 295-300.
Sunishth Chawla: Okay. I just did 315 for four times four sets. Yeah. And that's on a day that I'm trying to bring up my max, so.
Dylan Ogline: I, I've, I've noticed specifically with, with squats for about a year and a half ago, I really messed up my back. Like I thought I was going to be, you know, crippled for the rest of my life. I was I was actually, like, panicking, messed up, doing deadlifts. Since then, I'm really I've toned down the intensity. You know, I still try to go heavy. I still try to go hard, but, like, I ain't trying to set no records anywhere. So anytime I go over like 275, I've noticed, I start to feel like a little twinge in my lower back. That's the Boomer in me.
Sunishth Chawla: Jeez. Did you use a belt?
Dylan Ogline: No, I don't use a belt.
Sunishth Chawla: You should try. I'm not a pussy. Alright, you're gonna be the one walking with your hand on your back. That's what's gonna happen.
Dylan Ogline: Yeah, but that's if you're using the belt. It's because you're not strong enough. You shouldn't be doing the weights necessarily.
Sunishth Chawla: I can, I can go, I can go. Rep 325 right now without even pre-workout and a belt. But I put the belt on because I still have a little bit of a hockey career left in me. Yeah. So, by the way, I'm scoring a goal tonight. Oh. Are you. Yeah.
Dylan Ogline: Just one. That's it.
Sunishth Chawla: You better not get any more penalties that cost us the game.
Dylan Ogline: Let's not talk about that. Okay. That's an off limit topic.
Sunishth Chawla: All right, all right, fair enough.
Dylan Ogline: Justin. Hey, cut that part out, buddy. He's my addict. I love Justin, he's amazing. What was I going to say? Oh. Last week. That they gave me your goal.
Sunishth Chawla: I saw that. I got so, so on the scoring app. Now he's got two goals for the game, I have zero. I don't know what you're talking about.
Dylan Ogline: I had two goals. It was my assist. It was my.
Sunishth Chawla: I didn't know it was your assist because it was like a rebound. Like. Yeah, it was it was kind of a cheesy goal because Alex had just gotten off like, right, right before you.
Dylan Ogline: I wouldn't have passed it to Alex.
Sunishth Chawla: Oh, I know. The fact that Carlos came in and stole the puck from you the same way you do to me, that that felt good. But anyways, moving on to talk that we can't really support with photos and videos, but
Dylan Ogline: I was going to ask you about what? Do you do anything other than just push, just hard, heavy weights. Do you do any kind of cycling? Any kind of yoga?
Sunishth Chawla: Well, for me, it's really just been I walk a lot, and it's because, like, for photography, I have to do that or for, like, whenever I'm like at the race track, always, always, always. I'm like, my watch is going off telling me, like, record this outdoor walk. Exactly. So I think last time when I went to Sebring, I want to say I walked around like 5 to 7 miles, just around like the same area. Okay.
Dylan Ogline: When were you there?
Sunishth Chawla: What was that?
Dylan Ogline: When were you there?
Sunishth Chawla: When was I there? That was like, two weeks ago.
Dylan Ogline: Every two weeks, you do a long walk.
Sunishth Chawla: Well, no. No, I do more than that. That's a good workout regimen. The other the other thing really has to do with, like, I want to say, it's like rollerblading and going to morning skate. So really just staying on my feet. I'm always on my feet every single day. And now it's starting to take a toll on me because my daily schedule basically goes, wake up at seven and hit the gym. Go to class pretty much every single day. And there I'm walking around as well across campus and then study for like seven hours. Go to bed at three. Repeat. So it's like you gotta.
Dylan Ogline: Get more sleep.
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah. I mean, I have been working on it. Those melatonin gummies on my on my table.
Dylan Ogline: Don't do melatonin. Melatonin is terrible.
Sunishth Chawla: I do it, like, once in a while. How often? It's once in a while. Like, maybe like, once every three weeks. Okay, so it's not too bad, but.
Dylan Ogline: Yeah, that's a that's a hormonal drug. Yeah. So you don't want to be which I have it too. And you know every now and then it's like, man, I need to get a good night's sleep. Exactly. Knock myself out. I'll do some of them. But, yeah, that's gotta stay away from that. Yeah. What was I. There was another question. See, this is why I'm being a bad interview.
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah.
Dylan Ogline: I don't know what.
Sunishth Chawla: They're writing these things down. I got all these fancy tablets and an iPhone 14. Start writing it down on that brick of a phone.
Dylan Ogline: Shit. I need to trade that thing. I hate it so far.
Sunishth Chawla: I hate it. I told you Samsung's an option.
Dylan Ogline: No, I couldn't, I couldn't do it. What's your goal with training.
Sunishth Chawla: So with training, really, it's just it's the first thing. And this is, I guess like something I've been working on for years. Is that, like, where I can stay satisfied with how I look right now? I've got a little bit of the titty, a little bit of like the beer belly action going on. And like, that's my biggest motivation is to get in there and to, like, put on a shirt and not have to like, worry about like anything protruding out, like, what's.
Dylan Ogline: Your diet like?
Sunishth Chawla: So diets actually improved before it was terrible. I'd have, you know, McDonald's and I'd have chick fil A, all this stuff. I still have chick fil A, but like, that's pretty much once every other day. But I keep within, like a certain calorie. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Dylan Ogline: You're one of those macro guys. Yeah.
Sunishth Chawla: Yes, exactly. And I have and I have to focus on it now too, because like, I was meal prepping pretty well for like when I was living on my own in Michigan, I would basically sit there and like, devise a plan this week, I'm going to make this next week, I'm going to make this. And I go through them pretty quickly because I'm used to eating 2500 to 3000 calories a day. So now I'm cutting down. I think my maintenance calories are around 2400, so anything less than that is like is okay, but not too bad. So I'm trying to eat around like 2122. I just lost like 3 pounds in the past week and a half. So I'm working my way there and just going like looking at the mirror, you know? It definitely helps. Other than that, it's really just like pretty much being able to handle any task that you give me within a certain day. Like, if I have to go one day and start, like, lifting bricks for my dad at the house because we do everything ourselves because we're brown, you know? I want to make sure that I can do all that and not have to, like, feel any twitch in my back and be like, oh, well, I'm really pushing the limit.
Dylan Ogline: Do you ever stretch?
Sunishth Chawla: Yes, but everyone who knows about my hamstring problems will probably say I don't. I pulled my hamstring three times in the past month playing flag football. Hence why I've been a little bit slow during morning practice and in hockey in general. Yeah, but we're all we're all fully healed now. So this game is going to see how it...
Dylan Ogline: Impacts tonight's performance.
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah. Exactly.
Dylan Ogline: So a few things there is I really, really recommend stretching. A lot of men just don't do that every single morning religiously like it is. I don't think I've ever I've skipped it. I don't think I've skipped a day since I've been 17. Every morning I wake up, it's typically like second or third thing I do. I pee, make my coffee, and then I stretch. It takes me 5 to 10 minutes, right? I do pretty much the same routine that the way I feel before I do that and the way I feel after is it is I cannot put that into words. And I, I recommend that to every single person. If you want one single thing to increase the quality of your physical life, drink water. And the second thing is to stretch like a big fan of that. And I think even though now I'm like, you know, I get all these injuries because I'm old. Even now, I think that that is substantially played into the way I feel all the time. You know, like, I'm not in a lot of pain other than the few injuries I get. Definitely, definitely gonna do that. The other thing is stop counting calories, dude. Pay attention to the quality of the food that you're eating. If you're eating a bunch of vegetables and actually healthy food and not shit. I mean, you pretty much can't overeat. That's just my opinion.
Sunishth Chawla: That that is true. And like and I agree with that. But like for example vegetables they have such low calories. So like if you eat a bunch of those like you know it is what it is. And yeah, I'm counting calories again. But like for someone like me who's always on the road, I can't always have home cooked meals or have, you know, vegetables. Chipotle. Maybe I do go to Chipotle. That's like it's I switch between Chipotle and Chick fil. A every day for lunch and then dinner.
Dylan Ogline: What do you get at Chipotle?
Sunishth Chawla: What do I get? So I'll get cilantro lime or the white rice. No beans. I'll go for chicken and then I'll do a couple of the salsas, a little bit of sour cream and cheese.
Dylan Ogline: You lost me at the white rice.
Sunishth Chawla: Why? Because you go brown and...?
Dylan Ogline: I don't actually do any rice.
Sunishth Chawla: Really? What do you do?
Dylan Ogline: So I get I get no rice, I get a bowl. Okay. And I'll do. They did have for a while. It was pea based protein.
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah, I tried that. Not a fan.
Dylan Ogline: Dude, that was the best. I love that shit, right? So I did that mix of both beans, lots of fajitas, and do the extra fajitas, right? I do mild and medium salsas. Sour cream on the side. And I'll just, like, dip a little bit of that extra cheese and then lettuce on top. But if I don't have that pea based protein which they got rid of it. Typically now I'll do carnitas. I like the carnitas, I love barbacoa, but it's like they'll always have the big chunks. Hey, Chipotle. Listen, get rid of the sponsor.
Sunishth Chawla: This man.
Dylan Ogline: Sponsor for everybody in my family talks about all the time. Like I am obsessed with Chipotle. Like, I think last year was like 170 times I went there.
Sunishth Chawla: Holy shit.
Dylan Ogline: My record is like 34 days in a row. Every day for lunch. And a lot of the times when that particular record stretch, I was buying two. And that would be my dinner as well.
Sunishth Chawla: My goodness. Yeah. Yeah.
Dylan Ogline: And you got to do the green sauce on top.
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah. That's what the medium sauce or the or like just the separate sauce.
Dylan Ogline: No, no. Yeah. the green Tabasco.
Sunishth Chawla: Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I actually pretty good.
Dylan Ogline: I love the green Tabasco. I actually bought, like, a five gallon jug.
Sunishth Chawla: I'm not surprised. You need some spice in your life. Yes. But that's.
Dylan Ogline: The only thing.
Sunishth Chawla: That just started giving me heartburn, so I started. I stopped eating a lot of spicy stuff because of it. Yeah. So, like, half my mom's home cooked meals I can't have before hockey. That's why I decided to go and get a Little Caesars pie. $5. Hot and ready. That's a college kid's dream right there. Yeah. That's not good for you. I know, I know, Fridays are really like the days that I pay least attention to my diet, but when I. Yeah, but like, when I like when I said that I'm eating healthy. That's basically what I do is I watch what I eat. Like, there will be days where my mom makes some, like, Indian stuff that's like potato based or something like that. So I have to eat it and, and like I have to limit it. But in general, I cut out the McDonald's. The biggest like thing for me has been drinking coke. That's my one addiction and easy fix. I recently stopped it because I just started taking creatine, and I replaced all the coke that I have with water.
Dylan Ogline: Well, yeah, that's the best thing to do is just drink water. But there's some meme or something that like when you're, when you're young, you think alcohol is the adult drink. And then when you become a teenager, you realize coffee is the adult drink, and then you become an adult and you realize that water is the ultimate adult drink. Some big fan of water?
Sunishth Chawla: Exactly.
Dylan Ogline: But you just replace like Coke is terrible for any kind of, you know, sodas are terrible. Just replace that with Coke Zero. And that'll be a huge difference in quality.
Sunishth Chawla: That's what I did. At the past four months, I want to say I've only been drinking Coke Zero with a couple like that is aspartame.
Dylan Ogline: Aspartame.
Sunishth Chawla: Yep. Which is not a carcinogen and all that. Yeah, probably bad for you. So that's what once again, like before, I thought that it was the ultimate cheat code because I count calories. Zero calories still tastes good. It's great. But any anybody that like, bulks and eats a hell of a lot of food knows exactly what I'm talking about because I heard it from you guys. But at the end of the day.
Dylan Ogline: Just talk to your fan base, pump them up.
Sunishth Chawla: Right? You're right though, water is the best. Like it is. The big problem with me is. So I always like cold drinks. And if there's no water in the fridge, which there normally tends to not be, then I'll just be like, oh, time to go to chick fil A, go grab some food and then grab a cold Coke. Not a cold water, a cold Coke. So it just started becoming a habit. And now as of recently, I'm, I think I've had maybe one. I used to have 1 or 2 every single day, like those large cups I've stopped. And now it's like maybe once or twice a week, and slowly and slowly it's going down to.
Dylan Ogline: Get rid of it. So I'm a big fan of Lacroix.
Sunishth Chawla: I can't do TV. Lacroix. That's TV static right there. No, I love that stuff.
Dylan Ogline: I do about two a day. I'll do two Lacroix a day. They actually the Kirkland students, while we're like, in really old the Kirkland Signature way better got to go to Costco.
Sunishth Chawla: They screw the bro podcast. This is now reviewing water.
Dylan Ogline: Boring talk with dad's.
Sunishth Chawla: Hydration talk.
Dylan Ogline: Yeah. Wait, we do with hydro Bros.
Sunishth Chawla: Hydro.
Dylan Ogline: Hydro homies.
Sunishth Chawla: Hydro homies. Always wet. Yes, baby. Oh my goodness.
Dylan Ogline: Oh, man, I love that subreddit. Is it hydro homies? Do you know what I'm talking about? No, there's a whole.
Sunishth Chawla: I thought we just created this on the fly.
Dylan Ogline: No, there's a whole subreddit. Hydro homies.
Sunishth Chawla: What is it about water.
Dylan Ogline: Boys? Drinking water, bro? She's like, yeah, hydro homies.
Sunishth Chawla: I am speechless. Like, maybe I just because I just started drinking water again, that I don't know about it. You don't know, but.
Dylan Ogline: It's a cheat code. You got to be like six months into it. Then you'll be obsessed.
Sunishth Chawla: Then I'll know about it. Exactly. Yeah.
Dylan Ogline: Then we'll be getting, like, sponsored by Berkey and stuff. You don't know what that is, do you?
Sunishth Chawla: I don't.
Dylan Ogline: I have a water filter.
Sunishth Chawla: Oh, really? Oh, wow. Okay.
Dylan Ogline: You know that big, big chrome thing I have in the corner of my kitchen? Yeah, yeah, that's a Berkey.
Sunishth Chawla: It's a Berkey. I've heard of Brita. Not Berkey.
Dylan Ogline: No, no. But British. British? No. You got to go. Berkey. Berkey is a gravity filter. And you just put the water in the top and it, like, drips in.
Sunishth Chawla: Can I afford it? Is the question. They're pretty expensive.
Dylan Ogline: Yeah. Yeah. You don't need to do it now. I'm just saying, you know.
Sunishth Chawla: I'll stick with my bread and my Publix. Yeah.
Dylan Ogline: That's okay. You get you water? Bottled water?
Sunishth Chawla: No, no, I buy it by.
Dylan Ogline: Okay. You're talking to the progressive here. I know, I know.
Sunishth Chawla: So my parents, they fill up those, like, huge ass jugs. Like, I'm talking like the five gallon, ten gallon ones. Yeah. And we, like, fill it into, like, this little, like, dispenser, and then just, like, drink it right there. Yeah. Is it cold? No, it's room temperature. Oh. So then. So then I have. What I have to do is I have to take that same water. And I bought, like, a couple jug, like just the one gallon jugs from Publix. I'd finish those and then start pouring that water into those jugs and throw them in. Throwing them in my fridge. Gotcha. And then now every morning, I basically take it from upstairs, bring it down, fill up my water, fill up my pre-workout cup, and then put it back in the fridge. Gotcha. That's pretty much.
Dylan Ogline: So what we need to do is we need to title this podcast like, hot.
Speaker7: And steamy sex and.
Dylan Ogline: Dating topics. And will it be monetized? No, no, it's not going to be. Oh we're going to talk about is water. You're gonna be like, what the fuck is going on here?
Sunishth Chawla: No next podcast. Mark my words. Next podcast. We're gonna. We're gonna do, like, a water review. And we're gonna. We're gonna buy, like, ten different types of water. Spring water. Alkaline water. Whatever. And we're just gonna rank it from worst to best. That's all next podcast is going to be. Got it.
Dylan Ogline: Got an hour episode of Just Water reviews. Done.
Sunishth Chawla: Absolutely done. And so now, speaking of being thirsty. Yes. I think we should transition to the next topic. And that's going to be talking about dating. Dating girls and all that. Because right now part of my life is in shambles because of them, but broken heart. Yeah. Just a little bit. So at the other part of it's just kept alive by podcasts like this, wet podcasts. So giving your advice to somebody that, you know, just out of the blue, they come up to you and say, oh, I'm having a problem with my girl. What do you tell them based on your experience, based on what you've gone through life? It's a very, very broad. They're just looking for.
Dylan Ogline: Broad dating advice. Is that what you're looking for?
Sunishth Chawla: Pretty much.
Dylan Ogline: To someone in their 20s.
Dylan Ogline: Somebody in their 20s. So I'm probably going to ramble here. I would say everything. Realize that everything is about sex. Everything in life is about sex. There's a really. I know you don't read. I know there's a really good book by David. Something called.
Sunishth Chawla: 50 Shades of Gray.
Dylan Ogline: No, not 50 Shades of Gray. The way of the Superior Man is, I think, what it's called. It's a thick read, like it's pretty dense. You probably don't want to read it, right. It's a good book. It's a little sexist where I'm going to go with this about everything being about sex. I think that's where I got that from was this book. And I think it just it breaks down relationships and more of a biological way of trying to think of things like strip away your emotions and love and all that stuff. And so anyways, everything's about sex. Where does that come from? So realize that you are biologically driven to spread your DNA, right? And women are as well. So with that, like that's breaking it down to like a science as you can get to it, right? Dating is about sex. It's about spreading your DNA. Right? Why do we want to acquire resources? Why do we want to get money? Because it typically attracts a better mate. Because it senses security senses. I can get food and I can get shelter, blah, blah, blah. So then you get to spread your DNA more, right? And I don't mean this, like in a perverted way. Like the way the book explains it. It's like, wow. Like, you know, I'm getting all emotional about dating, but really, like, it's biology, dude. Like, that's what we're biologically driven to do these things. So where am I going with that? Realize everything is about sex and women want to be with winners. That was a big shift for me.
Dylan Ogline: And by winners, it doesn't mean that you have to be a celebrity, that you have to be rich. Most people, when they think of winners, they think they go right to money, right? That's not what it means, right? Women are attracted in men. Men are attracted to winners. Why are you attracted to winners? Because if you're, you know, if you date and you mate with a winner, then they're more likely to continue to spread your DNA. They're like, if you just really think about it from a scientific standpoint, that's where it goes, right? So my advice would be just be cognitive of that of that fact and focus on making yourself better. That's what being a winner is. And be honest with yourself and like where your weaknesses are, right? So if you're out of shape, get in better shape, right? Go to the gym. If you're broke, struggling financially, don't be ashamed of it. Right? If you feel like that is your weakness, then work on being more of a winner, right? Again, it does not have to be. You know, you're this rich, you know, ripped guy. You're driving around in a Ferrari winner, right? It's just be a better person. So my general advice would be cognizant of why you need to do these things. And it just focus on yourself, man. Focus on being a better version of you. Constantly focus on wherever your weaknesses are. Just focus on I'll continue to do to do better and become a better person.
Sunishth Chawla: And like for example, I think with your with the era that you were brought up in as well as the age that you are now, the air, the era. Wow. Sorry, I just took a geology test. It was all about eras. Like the ones you're from. Like where the dinosaurs really makes me feel old, man. But like when? Like the generation that you were brought up with, as well as the age that you are now, like, I think everyone tends to take dating a lot more seriously than people my age. There's like, now this thing going around, I'm sure you've heard of it. Hookup culture basically where, you know, you just get on the dating apps and you make it kind of like, I.
Dylan Ogline: Think that was the thing with my generation.
Sunishth Chawla: It was okay. Yeah.
Dylan Ogline: And in previous generations, dude, I think ever since the 60s and like, birth control became a thing, right? That really lowered the standard of you know, what sex meant. And so, yeah, hookup culture is I think now it's easier. Certainly you can get on Tinder or Bumble or, you know, is it Grindr? You know, I know that's more for you. You know, you can get on these different apps. It's certainly makes it makes meeting people easier, right? That doesn't mean that, you know, people in the 80s were less promiscuous, right? Like, it just became easier. The barrier of entry, you know, lowered. One thing I would be cognitive of is you know, the fear of missing out and the paradox of choice. Do you know what that is?
Sunishth Chawla: I'm vaguely kind of, like, been exposed to it, but go ahead.
Dylan Ogline: So the paradox of choice doesn't necessarily have to do with dating, but it certainly applies to women or for, you know, for women out there who are looking for men. Basically, when, you know, if you go back to a 1900s, right, you the number of women that you could meet was pretty damn limited, right?
Dylan Ogline: So now you now you have so many choices. So what happens is the more choices you have and this is the paradox of choice, the less happy you are. Which doesn't make sense because you should be able to find somebody that makes you happy. Whereas back then people would meet that person and they would spend 50 years with them, right? But they only had like ten people to choose from. You don't want to be looking for that perfect person, right? Because there isn't no perfect person. You want to be looking for somebody that you look for your best friend. That's pretty foolproof advice right there. If the person you're dating and you eventually marry is your best friend, you'll probably do. All right. So just be aware of thinking that I need to find the perfect person. That's bullshit. And if you continue to sleep around and date with, you know, 50, 100 people, you're probably going to end up miserable in your life because you had so many choices, and you're going to pick out that like one thing in that person and be like, well, you know, Beth didn't have that.
Sunishth Chawla: Beth kind of 1900s name was that no joke.
Dylan Ogline: No joke. I dated a girl when I was like 13. Her name was Beth.
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah, that was back in the 1800s, right?
Dylan Ogline: It was like 99, dude. Okay, 2001. Oh, no, 99, I was ten. So. No, no, this would have been... This would have been like.
Sunishth Chawla: When you when you had the Pontiac Torrent.
Dylan Ogline: No, no, this is before then. This was like seventh or eighth grade. Fair enough. Real name, Beth.
Sunishth Chawla: So like so with that whole thing in mind, with, like, making sure that with the paradox of choice, you you've got your choice and you can't be, like too picky, but you still have your standards. Another big thing that's kind of arisen is kind of like the placement that all women are going to be, the ones that you have to chase after, and guys are going to have to do all the talking. They're the ones who have to text first. You see that all the time. And like girls Tinder bios. I won't respond. So you have to text first or something like that? Yeah. So with it making it so much easier now to kind of like go out and meet people. How do you expect people to communicate when they don't even they don't even meet face to face. They're all just like, all right, they're going to text. They're going to send some like promiscuous Snapchats. They're going to link up. Call it a day. Whereas that normal culture that I think you're a little bit more used to is, is just going out meeting new people. And then from there it decides to just progress. So how do we get back onto that line? That seemed like a more reliable way of dating.
Dylan Ogline: As far as, you know, texting versus and stuff like that, right? You don't want to be the one to chase. Okay. You want to and this is kind of misogynistic advice, but, you know, I there's a great guy David D'Angelo, which is actual name is Ebben Pagan, but David D'Angelo, I went through one of his courses. I think we've talked about David D'Angelo. He talks about like flipping things on their head, right? Where if you go if you're chasing after a girl, right? If, if I get, like, really close to you, what's your natural response? I want to back away, right? Because it's just there's this, like, distance between us and we want to keep that distance. So and this is kind of getting to a personal thing. But I'll get back into the texting. But like, say you're at a date with a girl right. Lean back in your chair. This is the advice he gives, and it just works right. Lean back in your chair. That'll naturally cause her to lean forward. It's small stuff like that. And you again what it all is, is flipping it on its head where women are used to being chased.
Dylan Ogline: You don't want to do that. You want to be the one who chases them. Or do you want them to other way? You want. You want them to be chasing you, right? So flip it around. So, you know, as far as, like the texting first and whatnot. Like, you know, I think that's kind of okay, but you don't want to be desperate. I'm kind of like just rapid fire dating advice here, okay? Don't be desperate. Where it all kind of made sense to me was, you know, I kind of my first kind of like education focus was, was in business. And I learned sales at a very young age. I read a bunch of sales books when I was like 15, right? And it was the example that was used to teach it to me was, think of it with sales, when you like go into a sales situation and the person's like really desperate, like, come on, let me work out a deal for you. Come on, come on, let's do a deal. Come on, man, I can give you the best price ever. What do you naturally do? You naturally like.... this feels. This feels uncomfortable, right? Like, what's. What's wrong with that, right? When the person's like, hey, take your time. You know, if you go to the car dealership and the person's like, take your time, you know, let me know if you have any questions. You know, I'll be at me in my office or whatever. Let me know if you have any questions. That feels much more comfortable. But if a person's like, oh no, no, no, I got to answer any of your questions. Come on, let's talk. Let's talk to us. Talk. You want dating to be the same way. Just always be thinking about that. This doesn't mean where a lot of men will, especially young men, tend to take. This is thinking they need to be the bad boy. They need to be the asshole. Don't be an asshole to anybody. But especially women, right? Don't do that. But switch it to where, like, you're not desperate, okay? You're not being an asshole. You're not like, come chase after me, baby, but switch it to where you're not desperate. And it's it'll change the dynamic of the relationship that right there is foolproof.
Sunishth Chawla: So if you know sales you know how to date. That's basically what it is.
Dylan Ogline: Yeah, man. I think if you get good at sales, which it's pretty much the same thing, right? You're trying to you putting yourself out into the dating marketplace and hoping that somebody buys. Right? This isn't just about hookups. You're looking for a mate. You're looking for a partner. It's the same thing as buying a car. You know, you're looking. You know, you you're doing sales man, and you want to not be desperate. A good thing you can do is come back to the paradox of choice. And this kind of goes against my advice is you want to increase your options. And that's where the dating apps and whatnot, I think can help. Especially men who men who are struggling to find women is, you know, if you have hundreds of options, which you literally do. I mean, here's the thing is, you logically know how many you know, there's what, 3 billion potential mates for you out there. You know that, right? But you don't feel that. So the little bit of feeling that you can get, you kind of remind yourself that, hey, there's a lot of mates out there. I think that's a good place to kind of help build up your confidence.
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah, that's one thing.
Dylan Ogline: That lots of wide ranging advice... Did I answer that question at all? Did I help?
Sunishth Chawla: I mean, you gave you gave me a good like general thing. Like that's the thing. Being a host, you have to take what speakers basically like say and then you're, you're starting to like make questions while you're while they're talking, you're thinking, yeah. And I don't know if you can multitask, but that's, that's how it goes. So that kind of brings me to the like the general question, I guess. Now I have so many friends that are all like, you know, one of theme’s at University of Florida. One of them is, you know, at a different university, one of them is at a different college. They're all like, okay, well, I can't find any girls here because whenever I swipe right, they don't swipe right or whatever, like, you know, any of the matches that I get, they're not really up to my standards. And that's the same thing I tell them is broaden it up a little bit, just because in this year or in this time period at that specific location, the same way you do like ad targeting, like there's not going to be like, you're not going to be guaranteed to find that that person, that you're supposed to be yours in that little place in time. You have to kind of like, see it out the same way you said there's 3 billion potential mates, but it doesn't really feel like it. Yeah. So that's really like the umbrella that I wanted you to cover. And you hit, you hit the nail right on the head.
Dylan Ogline: Another thing for I've seen a lot of young men who lack confidence, right? And for that, you know, it's like it's like sales. You know, I, I used to do I used to sell a training program and it was the person would book a call, and then they would schedule a half hour strategy session. Right? That's what we called it. Strategy call strategy session. And I would sell them on the on the call. You know, the course would range anywhere from 3 to $5000. I did like a thousand of those. Sold well over $1 million. If I would have focused on the times where I misspoke, where I said something stupid, I would go in the conversations and feel, you know.
Sunishth Chawla: Very confined.
Dylan Ogline: Very confined, and very I would lack confidence, right? You need to pay attention to the little wins that you get. And just and this goes for sales. This goes for just general life advice to sales and dating. Really. You know, you just have to pay attention to your little wins. So it can be it can be things like, hey, that cute girl swiped right on me. So then whenever you go into an actual date with a girl, you're thinking about that and think about the wins that you have had. Don't think about the time that you fell flat on your face consciously. You know you got to forget about that stuff. You got to be thinking about just the wins that you have had and let that confidence build. And then what happens? It's surprising. You go into that conversation, that sales conversation, you go into that dating conversation, and you have confidence you're going to win more often. So then you start having bigger wins and you start paying attention to those bigger wins, right? That starts to build your confidence. That starts to lower your feeling of desperation. So like now, dude, if I go into a sales call, I'm like, you got like five minutes. Can you, like, tell me why I should let you buy? You know, like, that's kind of the confidence that you want to have. Don't again. Don't be a dick. Don't be a dick. It goes back to, like, especially with dating. Like, most people kind of understand the concept of the bad boy. Why does the bad boy get the girl? Right. Because he's doing everything different. The bad boy isn't desperate. The bad boy isn't chasing the girls again. You don't want to be a dick. Okay, that's kind of the problem with being the bad boy. You don't want to be the asshole. But you know, the way they're winning is they are not desperate, and they're paying attention to their wins that they've had, and they have confidence.
Sunishth Chawla: So in conclusion, I should call her. That's basically what you're saying. But with that said no, that's all really good advice. And I think everybody could have gotten a piece from that, regardless of whether they're confident, whether they're not, you know, whether they're with somebody that they think they're going to spend their life with and someone, you know, they're just kind of like floating with...
Dylan Ogline: Can't forget these two things. One same thing applies to women too, right? I know women who get desperate, so then they end up dating the bad boy. Why does the bad boy always tend to end up with, like, the desperate woman? Because she's willing to chase after him? Right. So all this advice applies to women as well. Focus on yourself. Focus on your wins. Then you'll be less desperate, and you'll be able to find somebody who you're more compatible with. You know, I see, like I said, I see so many women who they are desperate. So they end up in absolutely terrible situations with terrible men who are just trash. And that's not where you want to be. And the same thing with men. I know men who are desperate, and they end up with women who walk all over them. So you don't want to don't want to be there.
Sunishth Chawla: Yeah. Well, you heard it from Dylan. So I think that's all the time that we've got. Because we got to focus on those little wins. Those wins. Like what we're going to do tonight. We're going to win that game. Absolutely. And I'm gonna win Dylan over in the spa. Anyways, thank you guys so much for tuning in. Tune back in next episode where we're definitely going to water. We're gonna we're going to talk about water. We're gonna rank the water. We're gonna taste it. And then hopefully we get some more wisdom from the old man himself. So thank you guys so much for tuning in. And thank you, Dylan, for showing up another episode. But you guys take care. Have a great day. Thanks, man.